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sterbenx2 · Feb 04, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

holy cow..............
i thought i'd never see it...........

another ursanQQway thread.......

the only people who truly want this skill nerfed or removed are leetist jerks who want DOA UW and FOW back to themselves and they will say anything to get it back that way. If you aren't discriminated against over Ursan, you will be over not being one of the holy trinity or not being experienced enough anyway. Plz god let it alone and plz let these QQ threads stop already.

A-Net plz give the leetists back their crutch so whilr they are in their basements wishing for a life, they can at least FEEL Uber for a little while.

Crutch? You're supporting Uway and you say WE have a crutch? LoL. wow man. thx for /failing.

Anyway, Ursan should be nerfed to death. Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter? NO! similar to the Derv god forms and the NF worms. Wake up Anet! We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY. nuff said.

How bout a change, Avatar of Balthazar gives you unremovable enchant buffs, no change to character, NF worm.. Your are "blessed" by the worm, you can walk on sulfer.. god damn, I really hate these "form" things. Ursan is for wanks that are lazy or unable to play properly.

J snukka · Feb 04, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

this is what i think of the situation. I think those that say the ursan skill deminished profession discrimination are correct. I play ele so don't have this problem, but i do have an assassin, mesmer, and paragon that i would like to play with in elite areas, which having the ursan skill allows me to join in those groups.

so I don't understand why anyone can complain about these pve skills. And you know what. For those complaining now i can say to you "Now you know how it feels to be left out, so deal with it because those who only enjoy playing mesmer, sin, paragon have been going threw with this sh*t for the past year, year and a half"

you don't like it then buy the expansion and get the ursan skill.

oh and yea discrimination still exists within the ursanway party anyway. you need to be rank9+. so where does it end. It's human nature to want the best of anything. I am rank7 ursan and willing to farm the title to rank9+. I'm a casual player by the way. I barely play and i have no problem with anything Anet implemented. It's not a crazy grind for raising the title rank.

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by sterbenx2

Crutch? You're supporting Uway and you say WE have a crutch? LoL. wow man. thx for /failing.

Anyway, Ursan should be nerfed to death. Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter? NO! similar to the Derv god forms and the NF worms. Wake up Anet! We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY. nuff said.

How bout a change, Avatar of Balthazar gives you unremovable enchant buffs, no change to character, NF worm.. Your are "blessed" by the worm, you can walk on sulfer.. god damn, I really hate these "form" things. Ursan is for wanks that are lazy or unable to play properly.

yep i'm saying you have a crutch, why? because even now you are seething that your "so called" balanced build for xxxxxx(insert elite area here) isn't being forced on others anymore. therefore you feel less Uber than you are used to. Now other proffesions than the holy 3 are being used in your area and you can't keep the "n00bs" out so they are getting ectos and armbraces too. and that makes your tiny little E-peen shrivel more, so you can't have that now can you. as for you calling me fail, i have never been in an ursanway group even though i have the skill and rank 8 norn. but if it is helping other people get the most enjoyment out of THEIR game that THEY bought also then let it go already. be less of a leetist failure yourself and freaking drop it already. if i do decide to go into an ursanway group it will be a huge blessing knowing way down inside that jerks like you won't be there.

Cab Tastic · Feb 04, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by aapo

- Rits are really poor. Probably the worst primary profession for PvE. Assassins can do damage, Mesmers have Signet of Illusions and decent PvE skills. Channeling is the only viable tree.

Is this a serious post??

I know rits are possibly not the most potent class but hardly the Worse. Is there anything in the game that can generate the amount of damage that splinter/barrage can?

I know this is situational. But in PVE the chance to splinter occurs more times than not.

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

yep i'm saying you have a crutch, why? because even now you are seething that your "so called" balanced build for xxxxxx(insert elite area here) isn't being forced on others anymore. therefore you feel less Uber than you are used to. Now other proffesions than the holy 3 are being used in your area and you can't keep the "n00bs" out so they are getting ectos and armbraces too. and that makes your tiny little E-peen shrivel more, so you can't have that now can you. as for you calling me fail, i have never been in an ursanway group even though i have the skill and rank 8 norn. but if it is helping other people get the most enjoyment out of THEIR skill that THEY bought also then let it go already. be less of a leetist failure yourself and freaking drop it already. if i do decide to go into an ursanway group it will be a huge blessing knowing way down inside that jerks like you won't be there.

Actually...A: This forces other people to buy a game OVER ONE SKILL.
And B: People expect you to grind grind grind JUST so you can complete an area.
Ah, yeah - I would call the rank discrim on UB elitism myself, in a way.

buzzerman · Feb 04, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by sterbenx2

Seriously. DO you honestly think a Mes plays a Mes to be an Ursan? or a Rit or Para or any other class for that matter?

No, but it's good to have the choice. You still don't get it?

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We like OUR CLASSES.. NOT FORMING INTO SOMETHING ELSE TO PLAY.

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by buzzerman

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

Get real: pretty much 90% of PuG's run UB now, I have NOT seen a single balanced group for doing it. Ever since UB was published to be over the line in imba.
Also: Variety is not the word - you should just say "Monk and Ursan".

deadlynoob · Feb 04, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Actually...A: This forces other people to buy a game OVER ONE SKILL.
And B: People expect you to grind grind grind JUST so you can complete an area.
Ah, yeah - I would call the rank discrim on UB elitism myself, in a way.

yea i agree with you, we should force anet to make all skill core only so i can use faction and prophecies skills too.

cgruber · Feb 04, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

There's a reason why people run about 2-3 'standard' builds in the high-end areas. Coz the people you get have a good chance of sucking and by at least running a somewhat safe build you still have a shot at doing ok.

Afaik as FoW goes I can't tell you how many times I've had some dummy take the ghost immediately after entering and get us wiped in 30 seconds.

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by deadlynoob

yea i agree with you, we should force anet to make all skill core only so i can use faction and prophecies skills too.

Yes but (before UB) you can actually get in PuG's if your missing a campaign.
Now can you? No.

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Not really because the normal leetist douchebags are still hanging around and talking down to them for showing up with a mesmer thinking they would get into a group. Either way it is "buy another game" or "buy another character slot to roll a xxxxx(insert holy 3 class here) + go learn these skills and practice for 6 years and then if i am still playing you can maybe join my group". One is obviously just as bad as the other, but the profit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs are still jamming on ursan for lowering their percieved "uberness"(pronounced lifeless self-worth). Ursan is working out for those who bought GWEN and like using it, for those without it the options didn't get worse they just didn't get better. Leetist Ursan or Leetist balance are both still spammed in these areas, it just seems as though the "newer" leetist is more prolific for the time being. So with or without it the options are still the same, be a tool or be discriminated against in elite areas.

deadlynoob · Feb 04, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Yes but (before UB) you can actually get in PuG's if your missing a campaign.
Now can you? No.

true if u missed one of faction/prophecies's duplicated skills, untrue if you are missing both.

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Originally Posted by cgruber

Afaik as FoW goes I can't tell you how many times I've had some dummy take the ghost immediately after entering and get us wiped in 30 seconds.

youtube search: Leeroy Jenkins

Abedeus · Feb 04, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Get real: pretty much 90% of PuG's run UB now, I have NOT seen a single balanced group for doing it. Ever since UB was published to be over the line in imba.
Also: Variety is not the word - you should just say "Monk and Ursan".

I'd say 99% of PuG's run UB now, except for loosers in Ring of Fire missions that still think using 8 random people, 0 monks or elems is good. And they try to do first mission 10 times.

Even people that come to balances want to use Ursan instead of nuker/damage dealer -.-

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

Not really because the normal leetist douchebags are still hanging around and talking down to them for showing up with a mesmer thinking they would get into a group. Either way it is "buy another game" or "buy another character slot to roll a xxxxx(insert holy 3 class here) + go learn these skills and practice for 6 years and then if i am still playing you can maybe join my group". One is obviously just as bad as the other, but the profit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs are still jamming on ursan for lowering their percieved "uberness"(pronounced lifeless self-worth). Ursan is working out for those who bought GWEN and like using it, for those without it the options didn't get worse they just didn't get better. Leetist Ursan or Leetist balance are both still spammed in these areas, it just seems as though the "newer" leetist is more prolific for the time being. So with or without it the options are still the same, be a tool or be discriminated against in elite areas.

Except Ursan Blessing requires you to grind. Except Ursan Blessing requires you to buy an entire game for it.
Holy Trinity is nothing - that build was not used EVERYWHERE.
The only places i ever seen that were The Deep, FoW, DoA.
And no - it isn't for those who bought GWEN. And "Leetist Balance"? I have not seen one of them around lately.

I pwnd U · Feb 04, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by buzzerman

Get real: nobody (except perhaps stupid PUGs) forces you to use the Ursan or other blessings in order to play and enjoy this game. But again, it's good to have the choice to use them. I thank you Anet for providing this kind of variety to us, the non-elite-ego players..

I have never used a Blessing outside of the quest that actually require them. I run balanced when I do elite areas or any other area for that matter. Does that make me a elite-ego player?

Just because some players use UB and others don't doesn't make anyone anymore or less elite then the other players. Some players are not as skilled as others, so they run UB, which makes the game fairly easy. Some players are skilled enough to run normal builds and succeed but maybe they like to use UB. Fine their choice, we shouldn't tell them otherwise. Others like to play balanced and not use Blessings, this doesn't make them ALL elitist with egos. Yes some are, but once again their choice. UB is a skill that anyone can use (button mashing) but no one is forced to use it.

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

then you haven't looked. i see "NO URSAN" in every elite area now. I was in DOA last night and there were at least 3 groups looking for non-ursans. as i said ursan is newer thus more used ATM but the other jerks are still there as well. but the point is that no obviously not every class is =.

Tamuril elansar · Feb 04, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by aapo

- Rits are really poor. Probably the worst primary profession for PvE. Assassins can do damage, Mesmers have Signet of Illusions and decent PvE skills. Channeling is the only viable tree.

rits are one of the better profs in pve, splinter weap anchestors rage still rapes pve. And rits have a endless energy pool if they have one of the most usefull rit elites.

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

then you haven't looked. i see "NO URSAN" in every elite area now. I was in DOA last night and there were at least 3 groups looking for non-ursans. as i said ursan is newer thus more used ATM but the other jerks are still there as well. but the point is that no obviously not every class is =.

Sure they weren't your guildies?
I have very rarely seen non-ursan groups. Even in elite areas.

roshanabey2 · Feb 04, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by aapo

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Oh my ****ing goodness you are ******. Why on the bloody hell do you want to join Ursanway group without Ursan Blessing? And like when group asks for Monk do you get your wammo and start argumenting that "it's like a monk just W primary, I got 8 healing skills"? Start your own noob group for profession viability. Chances are, not many people want to join. Why's that? Because PUGs SUCK and people usually want to get STUFF DONE and NOT FAIL.

i am not asking to join a ursan groups, what I am saying there aren't enogh normal ones

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

pretty sure considering me and a friend from another guild were trying something new with just 2 of us and some heros + nobody was really on last night (Superbowl

). but i am tired of arguing about a tactic i don't even use, so in summation i will just say that the advent of Ursan has made very many disenfranchised players happy again, giving those with skill- a chance to go to areas they may otherwise have never accessed. surely this added happiness in a large chunk of the player base can't be looked upon as a bad thing as it has brought even some players who had left the game back to tyria (if only to gripe about Ursan itself). That is all and if you still want to argue, someone else will have to take over for me. (my lunch break is over.)